Cloud 9 - Areomyst's Super 9 Project (TSG Tuned)

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Postby SLOWRIDER » Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:05 pm

Good luck Josh give it heaps, can't wait for updates on the weekend.
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Postby Areomyst » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:17 pm

Well, I'm working on a new build less than a week away from the NASRA spring nationals... I just got done with some very quick and dirty case porting. I can't spend much time on it, so forgive the blemishes where you see them:
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Here's my crankshaft with Stage 6 85mm conrod...

I'll be using a Stage 6 MKII Racing cylinder with a Roost RS5 expansion chamber and genuine Keihin PWK 33... We'll see how it goes. If I can't get it dialed in before the race (very likely) I'll have to revert to my old engine that's running 10's in the 1/8 mile.

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Postby Areomyst » Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:11 am

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Postby Areomyst » Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:55 pm

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In something to the tune of a 25 hour frenzy, I've managed to get the scooter ready to start! I had no fuel, so I'll have to go get some tomorrow night before I get back into it.
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Postby dan v » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:59 am

So....what all is required to put the mina cylinder on a kymco case? Looking good, Josh! Good to see you check in :D
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Postby DanielO. » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:14 pm

WOW! Dude... you did all that since I stopped by on Saturday? looks great! can't wait to hear it run.. :twisted:

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Postby Areomyst » Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:31 pm

dan v wrote:So....what all is required to put the mina cylinder on a kymco case? Looking good, Josh! Good to see you check in :D


Thanks for the comment Dan!

To fit the cylinder, the big thing is just to get a different connecting rod. I used a Stage 6 R/T conrod. The big end pin for the R/T crank is too long, and I wanted to grind the extra length off (with a surface grinder at my friend's machine shop) but there was no time, so unfortunately I was stuck re-using the old big-end pin.

The cases had to be ported a bit to match the Minarelli cylinder. It's mostly just matching the cases to the gaskets. I had to use several of the shims that came with the cylinder to get it spaced out enough for proper squish clearance, but all in all, it isn't that bad after the connecting rod is changed. I'm working on getting better equipment for pressing cranks back together - but as with many things with me, it's going to take quite a bit of time before anything materializes. :)

DanielO. wrote:WOW! Dude... you did all that since I stopped by on Saturday? looks great! can't wait to hear it run.. :twisted:

Thanks Daniel! Yeah, it's been insane trying to get so much done in such a small amount of time. I picked up some 110 today and mixed it with 92 pump fuel to get 101ish octane. I got it fired up tonight after some fiddling with the carburetor and I'm excited to see how it goes! I'm not making an promises, but I'm going to try hard to see about a test and tune Thursday. I did not change my gears yet... I'm still debating. Guess we'll see what the dyno says about this setup and go from there.
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Re: Cloud 9 - Areomyst's Super 9 Project (TSG Tuned)

Postby Areomyst » Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:42 am

I have decided to retire my Super 9 project, and sell it off. I've had it a long time, learned a lot, and had lots of fun with the bike, but I'm ready for something a little bit more race friendly. I picked up a 2002 Derbi GP1 yesterday, and will be tuning that for use at the kart track, and my Yamaha Jog will be the drag strip bike. :)

Here's a photo of the GP1:
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Re: Cloud 9 - Areomyst's Super 9 Project (TSG Tuned)

Postby scootertrog » Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:31 pm

Does your Derbi have the original Derbi engine or the Piaggio version? I put a Metrakit set-up on a GP1 (original Derbi engine) and was pretty impressed with it. The only complaint I had with the Derbi product - I had to have every single allen wrench size in the book to work on the bike, lol. :D

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Re: Cloud 9 - Areomyst's Super 9 Project (TSG Tuned)

Postby dan v » Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:16 pm

Nice find, Josh! Take care of the Derbi bits - it can be a project in itself finding them if you need them!
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Re: Cloud 9 - Areomyst's Super 9 Project (TSG Tuned)

Postby Areomyst » Thu Jun 09, 2016 11:21 am

scootertrog wrote:Does your Derbi have the original Derbi engine or the Piaggio version? I put a Metrakit set-up on a GP1 (original Derbi engine) and was pretty impressed with it. The only complaint I had with the Derbi product - I had to have every single allen wrench size in the book to work on the bike, lol. :D


It does have the Piaggio style engine in it. I'm excited to have it! I'm going to put an inexpensive RMS crankshaft in the thing to get it back running and start taking it to track days. When I get around to doing that, I'll make a separate thread about it. As I get better at racing, I'll certainly want to start upgrading things on the engine - but for now I'm going to keep it simple, keep it a 50, and just work on technique and riding style at the kart track.

dan v wrote:Nice find, Josh! Take care of the Derbi bits - it can be a project in itself finding them if you need them!


Thanks Dan. :) It's got a few scratches and cracks in the plastics already. I may do some crash knobs in some places, but my plan with this thing isn't to keep it nice at all - in fact, I am likely to crash it a few times for better or worse. I think it's going to make an excellent track bike!

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Re: Cloud 9 - Areomyst's Super 9 Project (TSG Tuned)

Postby Areomyst » Fri May 12, 2017 10:35 pm

Well, it finally happened. I sold the Super 9...

While that's the end of my nurturing of the project, I'm on to greater things. I've got the Derbi GP1 to contend with, and one of these days i need to get the Jog out to the drag strip!

Thanks to everyone who has helped with the Cloud 9 project along the way. It has truly been an immense learning experience over a very long period of time, and I'm glad that I had the chance to do this. My hope is that my next personal drag-race build (The Jog) surpasses my Super 9 accomplishments by far. :)

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Re: Cloud 9 - Areomyst's Super 9 Project (TSG Tuned)

Postby dan v » Mon May 15, 2017 5:58 am

I guess you could say that there has been a lifetime of learning in that project over the past nine years. Looking forward to see what the new projects bring.
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